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I presume that readers understand I am discussing this question within the context of Mormon vs. Christian/Biblical doctrine. Having said that, I would have to say at the outset of this discussion that the above to me is a "non-question" because baptism doesn't save any Mormon. In my other pages I indicate LDS have 4 definitions of salvation.

  1. Resurrection (baptism doesn't do anything here, for non-baptized people are resurrected).
  2. Attaining one of the 3 levels of glory. This is the only possible purpose of baptism in Mormon doctrine, but as I have indicated in my main article, there are not 3 levels of heaven, there is only ....
  3. Celestial glory. Other requirements exist besides baptism to gain this, and
  4. for exaltation as well.

Now let me state simply what I believe the Bible DOES teach about baptism, then give evidence. Baptism in the context of the new testament world was a ritual people entered into in order to show a change of religion. The word itself means to immerse, dip, or place into; initiation into. I believe baptism is a first step of obedience and testimony that is to be taken by one who has believed in Christ's substitutionary sacrifice for all their sins and is therefore (already) saved (from hell/the lake of fire, and into the guarantee of celestial glory).

I like to use the formula (taken from Eph. 2:8-10) following to show how baptism relates to salvation (it is a 'work' we do): FAITH = SALVATION + WORKS. Note what is the cause here and what is the effect.

At the end of this article is a listing of all the verses where we find the word baptize or a form of it(for your personal study), that give us any information about the subject. Some of these scriptures speak of spirit baptism, rather than water baptism, and the two are not synonymous.

I have listed some 125 verses here that show the means of salvation to be faith in Christ. (See for example, Acts 10:43, Rom. 4:5, 5:1, John 1 :12, Romans 10:10-13, Acts 16:31) I have also indicated that sound interpretation of the scriptures includes following the bulk of what scripture teaches, rather than picking out isolated passages and ignoring the bulk. There are (listed below) 4 verses that are often cited as evidence that baptism "saves" us (as opposed to the 125+ that give no indication that baptism is a requirement). God certainly does not contradict himself. So the logical thing to do is to determine whether there is another possible interpretation for the 4 verses, rather than trying to reinterpret the 125. Here are the verses:

John 3:5 First note that the word baptism does not occur in this passage. Then note that verses 4,6 and 7 all refer to a physical and a spiritual birth. That is most likely the idea of verse 5. Physical birth is a birth by water - amniotic fluid to be specific. Thirdly, note that the explanation immediately following speaks of believing as the way to be saved - verses 15-18. Even if one gives the benefit of the doubt and presumes that it means baptism, it may well be Christ was simply using a "euphemism" for change of religion, which baptism meant. (Changing religions would have been a radical thought for Nicodemus, a devout follower of old covenant law!) The euphemism would be similar to my telling a girl she needed to "walk down the church aisle" to get married, when the aisle of the church had almost nothing to do with her marital status!

If John 3:5 refers to water baptism, that creates a problem for the LDS in that Mosiah 27:24 and 28 speak of one being born again, and born of God BEFORE he is baptized.

Acts 2:38 Checking the Greek preposition here (be baptized for the remission of sins) we find that it could as correctly be translated "because of" - thus "Be baptized because of the remission of sins." Further, we must accept this as a partial explanation of how one is saved because verse 40 says it was.

Acts 22:16 The statement of Ananias to Paul I consider a partial and figurative reference to salvation. Paul was giving his testimony, not preaching or teaching on how to be saved. Obviously he wanted to indicate he had truly changed religions. For the complete story of Paul's conversion, see Acts chapter 9.

Mark 16:16 This verse and the ones following it are not found in some of the oldest manuscripts - a fact which is indicated in any good study Bible. Some new translations omit the section. The parallel passage, Matt. 28:18-20 gives several instructions, but the fact is, it is not specified in the giving of instructions just at what point the salvation comes in either of these passages. I firmly believe that all who genuinely believe in Christ, if they are able to do so, are going to want to follow him by being baptized. But there are some reasons (following) that I do not believe it is the baptism itself that cleanses us from sin.

  1. "Water cleanses only skin; only blood cleanses sin." (Heb. 9:22, I John 1:7) This is one way of saying that I believe baptism is a symbol. It is a picture of what has happened within as a result of our faith in Christ. Why do I say that? Because the Bible compares baptism and old covenant circumcision. (Col. 2:11-13) Circumcision was the old covenant way of picturing entrance into the covenant-relationship with God. Yet we discover in Romans 4:9-11 that Abraham was considered justified in the sight of God (i.e. saved) before he was circumcised. Circumcision came about 14 years after his faith in God's message. The passage tells us that Abraham is the father of all of us who believe -- i.e. an example or pattern for us. It was faith, not circumcision that saved Abraham; yet he was willing to follow afterwards. So, it is faith, not baptism that saves us. Romans 2:26-29 show that not a ritual, but the heart-condition, determines my salvation. If one is going to discuss how to be saved, it only makes sense to find the scriptures that focus on that subject. The lengthiest, most orderly explanation of salvation in the whole Bible is in Romans 1-8. The heart of the message is in Romans 4, and that is where we read that we are not saved by works(4:5; baptism is a good work), but by the imputed righteousness of Christ which comes by faith (5:1).
  2. We know that to be saved or justified, one must be indwelt by the Holy Spirit. (Romans 8:9, I John 5:10). Yet we find the Holy Spirit entering into unbaptized people in Acts 10:44. See also Galatians 3:2, 14.
  3. Baptism is not the heart of the gospel according to I Corinthians 1:14-17. (Otherwise, why would Paul brag about not baptizing anyone?) The gospel is (Romans 1:16) the power or energizing force which saves those who believe. If by my faith I have the "right" or authority to become God's child (John 1:12), and if the message I believe (the gospel) is the energizing force to save me, what else is necessary?
  4. Baptism is "the answer of a good conscience toward God" (I Peter 3:21). It isn't a BAD conscience doing something to become good. It is one who has been cleansed doing something in response to that cleansing -- i.e. bearing testimony of it.

I Peter 1:21 does have some complicated wording: "the like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us." That needs some study. First, we can see we are dealing with symbolism ("figure"). The idea seems to be that just as water saved Noah, so baptism saves us. Did water save Noah? Or was it the Ark? Or was it God's command that he obeyed in building the ark? If water didn't save Noah, then baptism doesn't save us! So what is the meaning of this passage? It is that we are saved by what the water symbolizes. Both the flood water and baptism symbolize death (Romans 6:4), and through that death (Christ's) and resurrection we are saved, as the end of the verse states -- "by the resurrection of Jesus Christ."

Please don't think I want to just ignore baptism. The scriptures command leaders to baptize their converts (Matt. 28:19-20). But it grieves me to see a false focus. What I mean is this: If it is the ritual itself that works a spiritual change in us, then salvation is in the hands of men, and it becomes important who baptizes you and how. But the scriptures show that it is a message believed that saves us(Rom. 1:16) -- i.e., the focus is on what Christ did, not which authority structure you become a part of. The efficiency of this is wonderful -- people who hear the radio in iron curtain countries or read gospel literature can be saved NOW... they don't have to wait for the government to allow people to come to them to "save" them. And that is just what has happened. The changed lives of literally thousands of Christians in iron curtain countries, willing to live lives far more fervent than most Americans, even unto martyrdom, is evidence that God has no "franchise" on salvation such as the LDS have presumed. And the fact that the scriptures do NOT focus on the who and how of baptism is significant in itself (see list of scripture references below).

The Mormon concept of baptism is that it is a covenant we make that we will obey God. And if we keep that covenant, then we will be "saved" (celestial glory or exaltation). But there is no verse in the Bible that indicates this. The fact is that the covenant that saves me is spelled out in Hebrews 8:10-12 and Hebrews 10:16-18. If you will read those passages, you will see that this is a unilateral covenant. In other words, it has an "I will do this" part authored by God, but it doesn't have an "if you will do that" part which we must do. That is the great Mormon error - making God's unconditional contract a conditional one (beyond accepting it by faith).

It isn't that I am against obedience; quite the contrary. I think if the average Mormon (or even the devout Mormon) were to match "good works" with me, I would come out pretty well. But I don't serve to gain salvation; I serve because I love God for giving me salvation as a gift.

In the book of John alone there are 47 times when Christ commanded or asked people to believe in him, or spoke of the necessity of faith. But not once in the 4 gospels do we read that Christ ever commanded anyone to be baptized. He only, before going to heaven, instructed his disciples to baptize others. John 4:2 shows he never baptized anyone, and there is no WRITTEN record of the baptism of any of his disciples! I am not saying we should do away with baptism; I am saying we should focus on what Christ focused on. John 6:47 starts with terminology that means "I am telling you the truth about this", and then says by believing we receive eternal life. Inescapeably, if baptism is necessary for eternal life, Jesus blatantly lied here!

I like to think of baptism as a wedding ring. The ring itself doesn't make me a married woman. It is just a customary way of showing I'm married. One can wear it without being legally married; one can be legally married without wearing it. But I would be suspicious of anyone who says "I am saved, but I don't want to be baptized." What bride would refuse to wear her groom's ring?

Personally, I know I was saved before being baptized, because it was in that in-between time that God called me to be a missionary (I consider myself a missionary to Mormons).


Matt. 3:1-16, 21:25, Mark 1:4-9, Luke 3:3,16, 7:29, 20:4, John 10:40 Acts 10:38, 13:24 , 18:25 are all references to the baptism of John, which is not applicable to our time period - see Acts 19:1-7.

Matt. 20:22 , Mark 10:38-39- "initiation" usage

Matt. 28:18-20, Mark 16:16, Acts 2:38, 22:16, I Cor. 1:13-17, Col. 2:12, Heb. 6:2, I Peter 3:21- discussed above

John 1:25-28, 31-33, Acts 1:5, 22 , 11:16 water vs. spirit baptism

John 3:22-23,26 Jesus' disciples baptize - John 4:2

Acts 8:12-16 - Phillip baptizes

Acts 9:18 - Paul baptized

Acts 18:8 - Paul baptizes

Romans 6:3-4 - discussed above. A definitive statement about baptism relating to a new life. Some feel these verses have a double application - to spirit baptism as symbolized by water baptism.

I Cor. 12:13, Gal. 3:27 - Spirit baptism. These are important passages in that they define what it is that actually puts one into God's "true church". Note in the first passage that it says we are baptized into that body (the church) (bold & italics) by (end both) one spirit. The word by refers to instrumentality -- it tells us who is doing the baptizing. It isn't men's hands or man's action that gives me spiritual birth -- it is an act of God's Spirit! (Laying on of hands isn't the way either -- see Acts 8:36-40 and 10:44-48.) Mormons would put God into a box that is too small for Him!

Eph. 4:5 - "one baptism" (I believe this puzzling statement refers to the fact that one can only be "initiated" into something once.) believe it refers to Spirit baptism as the reality of which water baptism is the shadow.

CONCLUSION: It makes no sense to me that Jesus would be so thorough as to speak of the plan of salvation in the Bible far more than 125 times, specifying "faith" as the cause, and in all those times, fail over and over to mention baptism if it were truly the "saving" factor! Genuine salvation focuses on the true savior - Jesus Christ, not on fallible men or a human organization.

"To Him (Christ) give all the prophets witness,
that through His name whosoever believeth in Him
shall receive remission of sins." Acts 10:43

Note that this is indicated as the test of a true prophet!

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