MORMONS IN SHOCK
I am compelled to pass on a warning from the Word of God to the members and followers of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (commonly called LDS or Mormons) regarding what may await them on judgment day when we will all stand before GOD (click to read Revelation 20:11-15). If they do not listen to this warning they will be in SHOCK to learn:
1. They have been lied to about what salvation is.
Ridiculous? Unbelievable? Please study this out before you conclude that it just can't be. If you find I have simply misunderstood something and the above warning is not valid, then be charitable enough to show me that! I care supremely about presenting only TRUTH! As severe as this warning may sound, please understand that I offer it in LOVE to prevent you future harm. If I were in your place I would want to be warned before it became too late.
1. WHAT IS SALVATION?
A. Resurrection. The LDS have several definitions. It can mean resurrection, which they believe comes to all by grace. But that is not what Eph. 2:8-9 means when it says we are saved "by grace"....for it also says, "through faith", which means this salvation is NOT for all. Salvation is linked to faith well over 125 times in the Bible... so whatever it is, it is for a limited group. (Click here for list of verses)
B. A level of glory.LDS may think that "saved" in Ephesians 2:8-9 refers to the attaining of any of the several Kingdoms of Glory as opposed to being in outer darkness or hell. But my home page refutes the 3 Heavens idea, and I have additional study information here: The Three Heavens Theory. Clearly, no telestial or terrestrial worlds exist! Thus this second definition of salvation is invalid.
C. Celestial gloryLDS salvation can be entering the top world, celestial glory, where God is present. This definition is the closest to the Biblical one, as relates to destinations, and will be discussed more below.
D. Finally it can mean one becomes a god in some sense of the word. For discussion of this, click here: "The Godmakers Issue"
So what is the problem? First, the Bible does not spell out several types or levels of heaven/salvation. Apart from a few references to a generic rescue that is not in the spiritual realm, the new testament presents a united picture of one kind of salvation with ONE set of entrance requirements and one destiny. WHAT are we saved from? From the wrath of God, for one thing (Rom. 5:9). Secondly, it is rescue from the penalty of sin -- spiritual death, which is separation from God. (Rom. 6:23) Thus the two Biblical choices are 'life' or 'death', "depart from me", or "so shall we ever be with the Lord"; one is either saved or lost, and is either in the resurrection of the just or the unjust. (Matt. 7:23, I Thess. 4:17, Luke 19:10, Matt. 13:49, John 5:29)
Now stay with me...this is important: Either your name is in the Book of Life as seen in Rev. 21:24-27, so that your destiny will be the very presence of God... or your name is NOT in the book of life, as stated in Rev. 20:15, which means you are cast into the Lake of Fire. What other options can there be besides 'name-in-book' and 'name-not-in-book'? LDS have been deceived about there only being the two choices!
Trying to make sense of it... could I be wrong?
Some LDS have suggested to me that the new heaven and earth of Rev. 21 may encompass the three levels of glory. But Doctrine and Covenants 88:17-21 says celestial glory will be on the new earth. That would mean the terrestrial and telestial glories are elsewhere.
The other option suggested by LDS is that the term Lake of Fire is more symbolic than literal, and, in a sense, anything less than celestial glory would fit the description of "destruction" (Matt. 7:13-14's options are destruction or eternal life). But that creates other problems:
Doctrine and Covenants 76:89 pictures the lowest glory (telestial) as having a GLORY that surpasses understanding. GLORY? Wait a minute.... the Biblical terms are "cast into a Lake of Fire", "destruction", "everlasting destruction" (II Thess. 1:9). Doctrine and Covenants 76:11 speaks of mansions and dominion in the lowest glory. Mansions? Dominion? What good will they be in a lake which, Rev. 21:8 specifies, "burneth with fire and brimstone" ? That verse is telling us WHAT IT WILL BE LIKE THERE! If it does not burn... the book of Revelation is a lie. It should have said, punishment LIKE or AS a lake of fire, and should NOT have described the nature of the fire as one that BURNS....if there is no "burning" going on there! (Note that this verse reads just the same in Joseph Smith's "corrected" translation). Jacob 3:11 even speaks of being CAST INTO it...and Jacob 6:10 speaks of its flames and smoke and fire and brimstone. (Remember, this is RESURRECTED people, ie...people who have bodies). II Nephi 28:23 calls it a "place" that people "go into"...so it will not be a state of mind or mere mental anguish. So which is it in this alternative to God's presence? Mansions, surpassing glory, and dominion....or fire, brimstone, smoke, burning, & eternal destruction in the presence of Satan and his angels?
It IS a "big deal!"
It takes a lot of gall to turn a hell into a heaven, wouldn't you say? But that is the effect, for Alma 41:4 describes the only Biblical alternative to God's presence as being a part of the kingdom of the DEVIL! Well.. quite frankly, he won't be reigning, but suffering in the fire... but the Bible clearly pictures that all who do not inherit the new heaven and earth (the LDS celestial glory) WILL end up in "the lake of fire", and it will be anything but heavenly. LDS telestial glory and terrestrial glory = the lake of fire.
REAL salvation is FROM the lake of fire INTO the presence of God.
I could simply end my warning right here by saying that the LDS have no plan that spells out how to BOTH avoid the lake of fire AND (by the same set of rules) gain entrance to the presence of God in the New Heaven and Earth. So which set of rules should Mormons follow (or anyone)???
Until LDS are able to talk straight about what really awaits us beyond this life... and give us some authoritative answers to this double-talk, I say to you...THEY HAVE NO BIBLICAL PLAN OF SALVATION! If they have been lied to about what lies ahead, the Church can't be trusted to tell you how to gain the blessings that DO exist!
2. HOW IS SALVATION OBTAINED?
Now the Bible equates salvation and eternal life repeatedly; the requirements are the same for both (John 3:16-17, Acts 16:31, John 5:24, Eph. 2:8-9, Rom. 6:23) And Doctrine & Covenants 88:4 indicates that eternal life is celestial glory. I'll buy that. Biblical salvation can be equated to celestial glory in that its end is to be in the presence of God. I might add that it is more fully, a fellowship-relationship with God that begins when one believes, and thus has been forgiven & justified, and that relationship never ends (John 17:3, it is called ETERNAL life)...and that explains why the Bible speaks of our having eternal life NOW (John 5:24).
So what is it that LDS are really trusting in to qualify for living in Heaven Father's presence? I often ask them that: "If you (for the sake of this discussion) were to die right now and God asked you why He should allow you into His presence.... what would your answer be?"
I get about the same answer with minor variations: "Well... I'm trying to keep the commandments... I've been through (or plan to go through, or IF I go through) the temple... and keep my vows...word of wisdom, tithe, and if I repent when I fail.. well... at this point.. I have a ways to go...but hopefully Christ will "make up the difference" for me.
Sounds pretty "iffy" to me. IF your performance is good enough when you die, then the grace of Christ kicks in to pay the rest of the debt due... That is essentially what II Nephi 25:23 says, too: "for we know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all that we can do." All that we can do? WAIT! Does anyone do ALL they can do? Don't we really, instead, just do all we CHOOSE to do? What if we DON'T do all we can do?
I've been told not to take this so literally...that this really means making a best effort, according to the "Encyclopedia of Mormonism". Well... do you always make a "best" effort? I know I don't. I Nephi 3:7 says all God's commands are 'do-able' so a best effort would mean obeying them all, wouldn't it? Helaman 14:13 says one must repent of all sins...and D & C 58:43 indicates that that means to forsake them.... that means quit all sins, doesn't it??? D & C 1:31-32 says God won't make the least allowance for sin, but we are to do the commandments to be forgiven. So I don't see this as a realistic plan....and I can cite you a lot more reasons why it is "Mission Impossible"... (if interested, click here). HOWEVER... the greater problem with the LDS plan (besides its difficulty) is that it is simply NOT WHAT IS REQUIRED OF US! The LDS are figuratively climbing a long, long stairway to nowhere, when God has SAID we are to take the elevator. I'm saying it doesn't matter how many steps or how tired you get...the stairway leads to nowhere. It DOES matter supremely if you miss the elevator.
So what is the plan? Salvation, forgiveness, justification, eternal life, being born again, redemption -- all of these are facets of the present-tense salvation God offers. Click here to see a list of some 125 passages in the new testament that indicate that salvation (all of these facets) is gained on the basis of faith in Christ's shed blood....nothing more. It is inconceivable to suggest God "slipped up" 125 times by failing to tell us the WHOLE plan! (Examples: John 6:47, Acts 10:43, Rom. 5:1).
FAITH IN WHAT?
At this point LDS often respond by saying that their faith IS in Christ to save them after they have done all they can do. But that is not what God has specified as the object for one's faith. You know...all the faith in the world will not save if it is placed in the wrong object (like a leaky boat)... but the tiniest amount of faith in the RIGHT object (enough to get in a good boat) WILL save when one is spiritually drowning. The object of LDS faith is not in the blood of Christ alone to qualify them for celestial glory and bring forgiveness and justification, but in their ability to do the plan so as to become qualified to receive the benefit of the atonement called celestial glory ...it is faith in a plan they do. You must be your own savior in a sense by obeying... or else what Christ did won't help you!
The Biblical object of faith is to be in the finished work of Christ -- in His shed blood ITSELF as SUFFICIENT to cleanse from sin and justify -- PERIOD. Romans 11:6 shows that if one works for salvation, it nullifies grace! It is the blood, by itself, (if we trust in it) that cleanses so as to fit us for celestial glory.
Can it be that simple? To say it requires more is to deny the very meaning of the word GRACE (Eph. 2:8-10) Grace is UNdeserved favor...but LDS say you don't get it till you DESERVE it (or qualify for it). See the double-talk here? That's like saying it is free after you pay for it (your whole lifetime!).
But the actual verb form in Eph. 2:8 indicates this: "It is by grace you HAVE BEEN and now stand as saved." They already had forgiveness... they did not have to spend their whole lives working for it or maintaining it! It is very painful to me to witness how many LDS struggle to grasp the great LOVE and KINDNESS, GRACE and MERCY of God that He is extending to them... to save them NOW, not because they deserve it, but in spite of the fact that they will NEVER deserve it.
"There is none righteous, no, not one." Rom. 3:10
"All have sinned and (literally) KEEP ON COMING short of the glory of God." Rom. 3:23
Whoever keeps the whole law, yet offends in one point, he is guilty of all." James 2:10
If GRACE is the key, figuratively, and LDS have REVERSED the meaning of grace from undeserved favor to deserved favor... how can they be saved? THEIR "grace" key will not fit the door! I do not say that lightly. Think about it. You can't go up when God says go down, and expect to be counted as obedient! You can't deny the promises of Christ (John 5:24 and 6:47) and rewrite the plan... we are dealing with God Almighty! HE dictates the plan! And He has said that it is " not by works of righteousness that we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us." (Titus 3:5) Note the past tense again...we can accurately state that we are already saved(qualified to live with Heavenly Father). If that is not what you have been told... you've got the wrong plan.
HOW TO BE PERFECT....
Matthew 13:43 states that it is the righteous ones who will be in the Father's Kingdom. And Matt. 5:48 gives the command to BE PERFECT. Note that the word be is present tense(so, also in the J. Smith translation). Like someone telling a child to " be careful", Christ was not asking us to head in that direction or make that our future goal... He commands perfection NOW! HOW can we meet this requirement? Hebrews 10:10-14 tells us that it is through the sacrifice of Christ that we can be seen as or counted as PERFECT in God's sight:
"For by one offering he has perfected forever them that are being sanctified... "(vs. 14) ;We are sanctified by the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all." (vs. 10)
We can be seen as perfect because of the blood sacrifice of Christ and thus meet Matthew 5:48's requirement!
Romans gives the picture of receiving a GIFT of imputed or transferred righteousness:
"Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin. " (Next follows a description of Abraham having BELIEVED and having been counted as RIGHTEOUS before God...) "Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him; But for us also, to whom it (righteousness) shall be imputed, if we believe on Him who raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead; Who was delivered for our offenses and was raised again for our justification. Therefore, being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. (Rom. 4:6-8, 23-25, 5:1)
The next chapter explains that even though Adam's sin (one man) brought spiritual death to many, the obedience of Christ (one) will bring spiritual life to many. Note: not YOUR obedience... HIS obedience. (5:19) He wants to give you a 100% clean record as a GIFT! Romans 6:23 says, " For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." This is God Almighty's only offer! Paul said in Philippians 3:9 that he wanted to be "found in Him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but the righteousness which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith."
It is significant to me that most LDS are unaware that the shed blood can secure for them a standing of "perfected forever" in the sight of God. Most have never heard of the concept of imputed righteousness. But it is at the very HEART of the Bible's lengthiest, most orderly explanation of salvation (Romans 3-8). They have never been told the heart of the gospel as defined in Romans 1:16-17! This brings me to the heart of my warning:
3. THE GALATIANS ONE CURSE
"I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ into another gospel; Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed." (Gal. 1:6-9)
Note the importance of the warning -- so important that it was repeated. How do I know this curse applies to Mormons? Quite simple - it is a matter of basic word definitions.
1. GOSPEL. It is preaching another gospel that brings the curse. I Cor. 15:1-4 defines the gospel as the message of the death, burial and resurrection of Christ for our sins..(note that there are no laws and ordinances in it) and says it is the message by which "ye are saved". Romans 1:16 says the same. The GOSPEL is the message by which we are saved if we believe in it (again....that means we are talking about MORE than resurrection).
2. SAVED. We already established above that Biblical salvation=eternal life and includes the promise of entering God's presence -- ie... celestial glory in LDS terminology. This is consistent with LDS terminology - see D&C 88:4, D&C 7:14
3. GRACE. Now the message that saves us (into cel. glory) is SUPPOSED to be the message of "the grace of Christ" according to Galatians 1. Grace means something that came without a cause - an undeserved or unearned favor. The Bible specifies that grace and works are the antithesis of one another - Romans 11:6. "If by grace, then is it no more of works, otherwise grace is no more grace." To put it simply - God wants you to believe in the cleansing power of the shed blood and receive the promise of celestial glory as a gift --the shed blood gives you a permanently clean record so you can qualify for it if you will believe. The Mormon gospel states that one's works (II Nephi 25:23) determine whether they qualify for cel. glory. They have redefined grace to mean the opposite of what it means... they have DENIED THE VERY BASIS OF SALVATION by reversing it. (see Acts 20:24). The curse of Galatians 1 was on those who PERVERTED the GRACE of CHRIST in salvation. The only way I know to pervert the concept of unearned favor is to tell people they have to earn it or be worthy of it, and that is what is at the heart of the LDS plan.
To give further evidence and illustration to this warning,
I present now some word pictures or parables:
1. AN LDS ILLUSTRATION. In "Gospel Principles", page 71, we read the story of a man who owed a creditor so much he could not pay and was to be punished, but then another person (represents Christ) steps in and says he will pay the debt. Sounds good so far...but then the story ends with Jesus saying the man MUST repay the debt to Him and it won't be easy, but it can be done. The problem with this illustration is that a double payment is required. The Bible states that Jesus did far more than refinance the debt - He paid it off. That is the meaning of what he said from the cross: "It is finished." That is an accounting term meaning paid in full.
Colossians 2:14 indicates that the charges against us were "nailed to the cross", and that is a reference to a custom of the day of a creditor nailing up on a post the debtor's signed-off, PAID-OFF debt record. So the difference is between a refinanced debt and a paid-off debt. That's a BIG difference! It is illogical to suggest we could make time-payments to Christ but not to God. They are both the epitome of long-suffering, grace and mercy. So why not make the payments to God and skip the death of Christ? The fact is Galatians 3:21 says that if there was ANY kind of law-system that could bring about our justification, Christ would NOT have needed to die. But He did die... and thus the "double-jeopardy" idea is sick. It is an insult to the value of the atonement.
2. THE RANSOM PRICE. Redemption has been referred to as a ransom price that was paid (remember - for celestial glory). Let's say (to illustrate) it was $1000. I John 2:1-2 and Romans 3:24 indicate that the blood was propitiatory -- that is, a completely satisfactory payment. In other words, he paid the whole $1000 of the debt. But LDS often say to me that they are going to try hard (obey, repent, do all they can do, etc.) and then Jesus will make up the difference. This is devaluing His sacrifice! It actually makes it worth even less than the old covenant blood of bulls and goats, for those sacrifices atoned even though the people were disobeying commandments - doing less than their best -- not doing all one can do. The animal blood was shed BECAUSE people were disobeying, and it atoned. But LDS say there is no forgiveness unless we are NOT DISOBEYING....in effect that makes the animal blood more powerful than Christ's blood. THAT is a pretty blasphemous thought, isn't it? But that's what LDS are saying -- that Christ only dies for the "just" and "godly" ones, when Romans 5:6-8 says he died for the sinners and UNgodly ones.
The whole idea that you pay your $50 or $500 and Jesus pays the rest makes Jesus shed blood less than propitiatory. Heb. 10:29 speaks of people who do despite or in other words have INSULTED the Spirit of Grace. I say that is what LDS are doing....making a mockery of God's grace by insisting they must pay part of it. What they fail to realize is that their payments are not helping but hurting... they are in effect making withdrawals, rather than deposits. God sees our good works (to impress Him) as "filthy rags" (Isa. 64:6) and asking God to look at any one day's performance of the 1100 or more rules that must exist under the LDS plan...is asking him to look at some failures to obey... and that takes away, rather than adds to the balance. The extent to which it damages our account is seen below.
3. THE AIDS PATIENT. This is brief - based on James 2:10 and Matt. 5:48. AIDS patients aren't asked to donate blood. Why not? Their blood is 99+ per cent pure... the AMOUNT of the virus may be very minuscule... So why not? It's the same with our HOLY, HOLY, HOLY God. He doesn't require us (to enter heaven) to "just try"...to make a "best effort"... to "do all we can do"... to just keep progressing... to keep repenting... he doesn't grade on a curve... he asks for PERFECTION. One little flaw disqualifies, just as one little pin-prick breaks the balloon. That is why Galatians 3:24 tells us that all these LAWS God gave us were intended to turn us to Christ! The law was NEVER intended to be a "plan of salvation"... it was given to show us our sin and thus our NEED of a Savior - Romans 3:20. We need ANOTHER PLAN that is on a different basis than law-keeping... that plan won't work! Galatians 3:10 says so: " Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them." God has said it is ALL OR NONE! (James 2:10) But faith in Christ's shed blood WILL work....it is the God-ordained way. Do you believe the blood is propitiatory? Is it enough to justify you? If not...you are not really believing in Christ's atonement. Faith saves.... faith in the right object. LDS ultimately are trusting in the value of compliance with all the rules in order to be saved. They must obey the words of God given from the time of Adam, Abraham, Moses, Jesus and the Apostles, and Joseph Smith... or else ! (D&C 136:4, 37, 42) . Jesus did not ask us to trust in a PLAN....He asked us to believe that HE is the Savior - the one who does the work of saving!
Galatians and Romans (6:14) specify we are not under the law of Moses.... thus this command in the D & C 136:37 (telling you what all to obey to enter God's kingdom) is CONTRARY to the gospel of GRACE of Jesus Christ and the Apostles. You have a choice to make... the no-grace, impossible gospel of Mormonism, or the Biblical gospel of the grace of Jesus Christ and His shed blood as sufficient to cover all your sins, and qualify you for the presence of God. Christ's atonement isn't about resurrection... it is about justifying us before God (Rom. 5:9). He offers you the gift of eternal life NOW....if you will just believe. Romans 6:23 John 6:47 (paraphrased for emphasis) says, "I'm telling you the TRUTH: the one who believes on me HAS everlasting life." (This reads the same in the JST)
Many who read these words will not believe or accept them. John 8:47 says "He that is of God heareth God's words... ye therefore cannot hear them because you are not of God." Are you fighting what I've shown you from the Bible? If you don't believe that you HAVE eternal life (celestial glory assured) on the basis of faith in Christ's blood as Christ promised, you are not of God. It's just that simple. Which is it? Joseph Smith's plan or Jesus Christ's?
4. The Day of Atonement Parable. Jonadiah had sinned...horribly - adultery. He agonized over it...wanted to be able to forget it. How could a holy God ever forgive? He had some idea of what the plan was supposed to be.... bring an animal to let the priest sacrifice. But after doing that the guilt still remained. What could he do? He would show God his remorse, his desire to be absolved of this guilt... he would take his best animal - his prize bull. He got it, took it boldly into the temple HIMSELF....marched determinedly toward the holy of holies... He HIMSELF would plunge the knife in...sacrifice his beloved animal as an act of painful sacrifice to appease an offended God, and pour the blood on the altar.
But it didn't work. You see...he was ignorant of the details of what God required in the temple's holy of holies. ONLY the high priest could go into the holy of holies to secure God's forgiveness through the day of atonement sacrifice. (Num. 3:10, 16:40) All others who entered that place DIED instantly. Jonadiah meant well, but he presumed to dictate to God the terms for forgiveness...and died in the process. HE MEANT WELL....but still died. There is a parallel here. ONLY one who is sinless... our high priest after the order of Melchizedek, CHRIST, can qualify to atone for sin. Acts 4:12 puts it this way: "Neither is there salvation in any other..." YOU cannot be your Savior. The job is taken. YOU cannot pay for past sins by your resolve to never do them again, for they have already been paid for. You can accept or reject what He did, but the redemption is already done...finished... complete... by the ONLY one qualified to do it. And THAT must be the object of your faith, otherwise your faith is worthless.
5. Another variation on this theme is seen in I John 2:2 where it says if any man sins we have an advocate, or go-between. That's a LAWYER! You'd be a fool to act in your own behalf if Christ has offered to be your lawyer! And that is the case! Let Him do it...He has what it takes -- the shed blood of a sinless God-man is your only defense and His argument is that the crime has already been punished, so you "walk" free.
Now let me just state for the record again that I am NOT advocating that we just believe and live as we did before salvation. The RESULT of genuine salvation is a changed life. The child will act like the father...but don't confuse cause and effect.
6. The Driving Record. At the department of motor vehicles is a record of my driving...it seems I'm a pretty good driver.... on paper. But in real life I've exceeded the speed limit LOTS of times....and...well, I am not interested in revealing any further details.... (-8 But none of the bad stuff shows on the DMV record. Why? It wasn't recorded because I wasn't caught doing it. The parallel here is that we are told that once we are saved, God not only wipes our record clean, but He then "remembers our sins no more"(Heb. 10:17)... and does not ever write any sins down on our record from that time on. (Romans 4:8, 8:31-33, II Cor. 5:19-21). We are again talking about that record of "imputed righteousness" that I mentioned before.
Does God REALLY see us as sinless even though we still sin? That's it exactly. It is a legal declaration of being "not guilty" that allows us to have a relationship with God...not because we are worthy, but in spite of the fact that we are not. And that is the ONLY way it will work, because none of us will ever be worthy enough to qualify as a friend or child of our HOLY, HOLY, HOLY God! LDS think only those sins we repent of are forgiven... that cannot be because the Bible doesn't say that...and also, we all are going to forget to "repent of" (ie... be sorry? or admit?) some sin because repent REALLY means "turn from" or quit the sin... To illustrate the ridiculousness of this requirement, we need only look at James 4:17 where we are told that if we know to do something good and don't do it, it is a sin. Now.... how many of you have ever REPENTED of that sin in the sense of even acknowledging it? And have you forsaken it? Do you always do every good thing you feel led by God to do? It's honesty time... Just on this ONE basis alone, I feel I can safely say NOBODY would make it. Philippians 4:8 is another such verse. No one lives up to it either.
But God is not writing down all my slip-ups, sins, rebellion, etc. It's all taken care of by the blood... that is what the blood was given for. Will you trust solely in Christ's blood, shed for you? Will you accept his grace for what it really is.... a gift given to one who does not deserve it and cannot qualify for it? There is no other way. If the heart of your faith has been in a church, a prophet, a revelation, a plan, rather than JESUS ability to justify by His blood alone... I would beg you to transfer your faith to a PERSON rather than a PLAN. Let Him be your Savior/Justifier so as to be qualified by HIM for living eternally with the Father.
That is what "faith in Christ" really means. Please let me know if you have made such a decision so that I may rejoice with you.
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